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hayden24
07-11-2012, 04:08 PM
What are the approximate depths of 150, 200, and 225 ft of #45 blood run copper at 2.5 mph? I am thinking about putting some but I want to use it to cover a variety of depths. I already have 300ft of copper.

Thanks,
J.R.

B4llzD33p
07-11-2012, 04:32 PM
isn't it about 22ft down for every 100ft out?

JAYRFRED
07-11-2012, 08:21 PM
What are the approximate depths of 150, 200, and 225 ft of #45 blood run copper at 2.5 mph? I am thinking about putting some but I want to use it to cover a variety of depths. I already have 300ft of copper.

Thanks,
J.R.
Blood Run has depth charts on their website.
Regards,
Jay
Why Knot Now

Travis
07-11-2012, 09:07 PM
Couple of thoughts about copper, if it works for you great, if not ignore it. If the fish are active above 60' then anything from 75' to 225' (or even 300') will likely work, doesn't really matter the specific depth they run. If the active fish are below 60' then 225' and longer will produce better. IMO people get much too worried about specific depths their copper lines are running instead of focusing on general columns of water where the fish are most actively feeding. I believe Proficient (if it wasn't Proficient I apologize for not giving proper credit where it is due) posted one time that they break the water into three columns and focus their tackle in whatever third the fish are feeding most actively in.

hayden24
07-11-2012, 09:29 PM
Jay it does have a depth chart but only for 400ft and above for their #45 copper. The other dive chart is for the #32 which has much shorter lengths. Do you know the depths that the 150, 200, and 225 would go down?

Thanks,
J.R.


Blood Run has depth charts on their website.
Regards,
Jay
Why Knot Now

Firstin
07-11-2012, 09:36 PM
150' will get you down 40' per my gtm 40.

JAYRFRED
07-11-2012, 09:55 PM
Jay it does have a depth chart but only for 400ft and above for their #45 copper. The other dive chart is for the #32 which has much shorter lengths. Do you know the depths that the 150, 200, and 225 would go down?

Thanks,
J.R.

J.R.
Sorry bout that.
I have switched over to all 32# this year, and did not realize that the 45# chart started at 400 feet.
PM me your email and I will send you a 45# chart that also lists trolling speeds.
Regards,
Jay
Why Knot Now

MarknFish
07-12-2012, 12:17 PM
I looked at the Bloodrun depth charts. As stated, the 45lb starts at 400'......I only have up to 375'......It would be nice if someone could actually answer Hayden24's question. I would like to know the answer too on the shorter range of coppers.

I have all 45lb copper. I know that this is not an exact science but if someone has some approximate depths for given speeds that would be helpful.
Thanks,

marknfish

KingSeeker
07-12-2012, 04:41 PM
The copper depth charts are listed under fishing tips and tricks at suindiana.com, just sign in with a username and password .

acesario
07-13-2012, 08:23 AM
375 won't reach 200 feet deep at 2.5. Deepest you can hit at 1.9 would be about 137 ft deep. At 2.5, about 115 deep.

600 feet of 45# copper should buy you about 180 feet

2.5 mph
50 deep= 152ft of line out
100 deep = 321 ft of line out
150 deep = 493 ft of line out
180 deep = 600 ft of line out


I have put the data for this into an android mobile app, and working on the same for iphone. Please see http:\\www.acutroller.com

I myself am wondering what kind of reel holds more than 600' of copper? and what you would use it for?

Garwood
07-13-2012, 11:38 AM
Can anyone tell me what the diameters of copper line of 45# & 32# are.

Thank you...

Ned
aka: SeaGar

SeaCat
07-13-2012, 11:43 AM
Can anyone tell me what the diameters of copper line of 45# & 32# are.

Thank you...

Ned
aka: SeaGar

Going to vary a little by brand, but 32# is around .030" and 45# is .037 or .038".

Fishrmac
07-13-2012, 12:24 PM
Aaron from Lakeshore Outfitters I will Saugatuck has some reels with 1000 feet of copper spooled and.caught a near 20lbbrand laker with it a month or so ago. 15 minutes or so to reel in. I believe fish hawk attachment had the 1000 at around 120with feet down.

chishol7
07-13-2012, 02:31 PM
Going to vary a little by brand, but 32# is around .30" and 45# is .37 or .38".

FWIW I just spooled a reel with Blood Run's new Super 45 that is advertised as having a diameter of .033. I haven't used it yet but I was able to get about 25 more yards on the reel compared with the old 45 that broke off.

Salmonsquad
07-14-2012, 09:22 AM
How did will a 300' of #30 go? I bought the wrong stuff I always run the 45 but i screwed up. I've been catching fish on the #30 pound just curious on its depth. Thanks guys

SeaCat
07-14-2012, 10:18 AM
How did will a 300' of #30 go? I bought the wrong stuff I always run the 45 but i screwed up. I've been catching fish on the #30 pound just curious on its depth. Thanks guys
Here are the depth curve charts from Blood Run's site:

32# Super Copper (.030 in diameter)
25′ copper – 5 feet down
50′ copper – 10 feet down
75′ copper – 15 feet down
100′ copper – 20 feet down
150′ copper – 30 feet down
200′ copper – 40 feet down
250′ copper – 50 feet down
300′ copper – 60 feet down
350′ copper – 70 feet down
400′ copper – 80 feet down
450′ copper – 90 feet down
500′ copper – 100 feet down
550′ copper – 110 feet down
600′ copper – 120 feet down

45# Super Copper (.038 in diameter)
400′ copper – 90 feet down
500′ copper – 110 feet down
600′ copper – 135 feet down
700′ copper – 150 feet down
800′ copper – 165 feet down
900′ copper – 180 feet down
1000′ copper – 200 feet down

SeaCat
07-14-2012, 10:24 AM
Aaron from Lakeshore Outfitters I will Saugatuck has some reels with 1000 feet of copper spooled and.caught a near 20lbbrand laker with it a month or so ago. 15 minutes or so to reel in. I believe fish hawk attachment had the 1000 at around 120with feet down.
Must be at a very high 3 mph + to only get down 120' with 1000' of copper. With my 300' old style Opti 45# I hit bottom at 80' with straight line trolling at 2.5 mph down speed. At 2.2 mph it hits at 95' and at 2.0 mph arount 110'.

The Blood Run charts show 1000' of 45# gets to 200' and 600' of 32# to 120'.

SeaCat
07-14-2012, 10:29 AM
FWIW I just spooled a reel with Blood Run's new Super 45 that is advertised as having a diameter of .033. I haven't used it yet but I was able to get about 25 more yards on the reel compared with the old 45 that broke off.
The diameter listed on the Blood Run web site says .038" for the "new" Super Copper 45# on their dive chart.

Sorry for the typo -- I missing the ".0" in my diameters when I typed it. The .037 and .038 diameters are for different brands of 45#.

chishol7
07-14-2012, 05:16 PM
The diameter listed on the Blood Run web site says .038" for the "new" Super Copper 45# on their dive chart.

Sorry for the typo -- I missing the ".0" in my diameters when I typed it. The .037 and .038 diameters are for different brands of 45#.


Ryan I copied this from the Blood Run site ( http://www.coppertrollingwire.com/FishingLine/copper-fishing-line-trolling-wire/ ):

**NEW JUNE 2012** Blood Run Tackle is proud to announce the new “Super 45” copper trolling wire that is a much smaller diameter .033 inches compared to standard .037 inch 45 copper trolling wire..but the same weight per foot! Realizing the huge impact of smaller diameter copper for ease of use and packing more copper on a reel, the new small diameter heavyweight line is revolutionizing the copper wire fishing industry. The “Super 45” wire is even MORE pliable and user friendly than the original 45lb copper, and with it’s slim design virtually flies of reels with ZERO backlash.

Now I have no idea what it actually is, nor do I have any interest in the company. I just stopped by The Outdoorsmen in Jenison the other day and it sounded like this stuff was newest, latest greatest. If it really is that much narrower it should run considerably deeper than standard copper.

Reality Fish
07-14-2012, 05:25 PM
1000ft of copper! Pity the poor soul who has to reel it in.

salty
07-14-2012, 09:29 PM
**NEW JUNE 2012** Blood Run Tackle is proud to announce the new “Super 45” copper trolling wire that is a much smaller diameter .033 inches compared to standard .037 inch 45 copper trolling wire..but the same weight per foot!

(i copied this from the post above) should be interesting to see how this stuff works. but i don't understand how it can be smaller diameter but the same weight,maybe some lead mixed in with the copper?

profishient1
07-14-2012, 10:26 PM
Great question. Answer, no lead. Pure copper strands under the silver coating that BR uses in new 45 is denser and heavier than alloy copper strands on the market that are mixtures of copper and other lighter metals (though they still have copper color). Pure copper will sink faster than the alloy copper mix strands. Also, less silver coating on outside has increased the weight.

SeaCat
07-14-2012, 10:29 PM
Ryan I copied this from the Blood Run site ( http://www.coppertrollingwire.com/FishingLine/copper-fishing-line-trolling-wire/ ):

**NEW JUNE 2012** Blood Run Tackle is proud to announce the new “Super 45” copper trolling wire that is a much smaller diameter .033 inches compared to standard .037 inch 45 copper trolling wire..but the same weight per foot! Realizing the huge impact of smaller diameter copper for ease of use and packing more copper on a reel, the new small diameter heavyweight line is revolutionizing the copper wire fishing industry. The “Super 45” wire is even MORE pliable and user friendly than the original 45lb copper, and with it’s slim design virtually flies of reels with ZERO backlash.

Now I have no idea what it actually is, nor do I have any interest in the company. I just stopped by The Outdoorsmen in Jenison the other day and it sounded like this stuff was newest, latest greatest. If it really is that much narrower it should run considerably deeper than standard copper.
I guess they have not yet updated the depth curve page yet. The new stuff sounds pretty good! I got my old Opti 45# stuff straightned out and am going to try a couple tips suggested for letting it out that other GLA members suggested but if it doesn't improve, then Blood Run may be the way to go. I wish they offered it in 300' spools -- smallest listed on their web site it 1,000'.

acesario
07-14-2012, 11:29 PM
We've had pretty good luck with the 45, and I think that's what most guys around here are using.